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The club currently plays at Sportpark Sloten and in the second Amateur Division, not in the first one (http://www.blauwwitamsterdam.nl/informatie/club-informatie/adres-gegevens here at club homepage]. I therefore deleted the (outdated or wrong) information. Chigliak (talk) 13:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Error?

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  • Opened 28 July 1928
  • The stadium hosted several international matches of the Dutch national football team, the first one being the game against Uruguay (0-2) during the Summer Olympics on 30 May 1928.

??????????? JukoFF (talk) 16:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Olympic Games were officially started on 28 July 1928, but the stadium had been in official use since 17 May 1928. I have now corrected the error (3 1/2 years later!). Thanks for pointing it out. SilkTork ✔Tea time 22:57, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 10 December 2020

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. After extended time for discussion, we remain at a standstill, with differing interpretations of an admittedly ambiguous policy being put forward. The better course of action in this case would be to propose an amendment to the language of the policy at issue directly on its policy page, clarifying the issue one way or the other, and then conform these titles to the letter of that policy. BD2412 T 19:43, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

– Per WP:NCPLACE, convention for sports stadia is Stadium Name, City. Consistent with National Stadium, Singapore, City Stadium, Norwich and Central Park, Cowdenbeath. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 21:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BD2412 T 07:40, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 12:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. GiantSnowman 12:52, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Many of those who have voted support for the OP so far have basically used the "per nom" or "per convention" arguments to avoid instead of actually challenging my reasons. There is an inconsistency here when most articles on stadia use the parenthetical disambiguation title, not a comma one. All signs that I have mentioned point to parenthetical disambiguation as the actual convention for stadia. This RM will exacerbate the problem with a highly notable name like "Olympic Stadium". And since this has now been listed on WP:FOOTBALL's list of association football-related page moves, the local consensus of a lone WikiProject should not override the larger consensus or consistency of the wider community. Most of the stadia that I listed above are multi-purpose stadia that hold other sports events besides association football. And even the current open RM I previously mentioned, proposing to move Toyota Stadium to a parenthetical disambiguation title instead of comma one, is a football-specific stadium. And I suspect that many football-specific stadia that would also fall under WP:FOOTBALL's scope like Toyota Stadium (Texas) also have parenthetical disambiguation titles instead of comma ones. Zzyzx11 (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Zzyzx11. There is no such convention. WP:NCPLACE does not apply to things that are not populated places, i.e. buildings, venues, businesses, parks etc. and its section WP:PLACEDAB section expressly shows parenthesis-convention even for some geographic names (regions, rivers, mountains etc.). Stadiums are simply out of scope. WP:TITLECHANGES applies here: If an article title has been stable for a long time, and there is no good reason to change it, it should not be changed. If you want to standardize the convention worldwide, be my guest: start a RfC somewhere and advertise it at CENT, but this piecewise renaming of small groups of things is a waste of everyone's time. No such user (talk) 13:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Zzyzx11, per No such user and per WP:CONSISTENT. A week after the appearance of this multiple nomination, three single-item nominations pointing in the opposite direction — Talk:National Stadium, Singapore#Requested move 17 December 2020; Talk:National Stadium, Warsaw#Requested move 17 Decmeber 2020 and Talk:National Stadium, Karachi#Requested move 17 Decmeber 2020 — have been submitted. I would not oppose consensus to move all such titles to one form or the other. However, since the current standard form for this type of Wikipedia main title headers is "National Stadium (City and/or Country)", partial proposals of this nature run counter to the need for consistency. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 06:00, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose For unification of wikipedia article title style. Traditionally, In these case, All wikipedia article titles have used parenthesis ( ). Why do cause unproductive confusion?Footwiks (talk) 07:05, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I couldn't find a convention specifically for sports stadiums. The typical disambiguation format outlined in WP:PLACEDAB seems appropriate. I can't see why stadiums would be an exception to that guideline. Grk1011 (talk) 16:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. For buildings and structures, there are no set rules. For Commonwealth countries (except Canada) we generally use comma disambiguation. For North America we use parenthetical disambiguation. For other countries we have no conventions and usually go by whatever has been most commonly used for that country. The type of building is irrelevant and we do not impose consistency in this way. So to state that all Wikipedia building articles use parenthetical disambiguation is not true, but neither is it true to say that comma disambiguation is the standard. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:06, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    If that is the case, then we should instead retain the existing style on each of these articles and put a moratorium on such moves until there is a set of actual rules. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I would support that. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 17:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: OP's nomination relies on a "convention" that does not specifically apply to stadia. There is also longstanding practice to use existing disambiguation. Seany91 (talk) 12:25, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Zzyzx11, et al. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, they are in X places not an instance of. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:13, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. These are things, not places, and the places are appended solely for disambiguation, not as integral parts of the name of the topic. It's therefore more logical and clear to keep disambiguators in parentheses. Station1 (talk) 02:22, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. If the convention doesn't explicitly apply to stadia yet, then it should, with this RM used as evidence. The comma is a better, cleaner disambiguator here. SnowFire (talk) 03:27, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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